Qwen
Training Qwen3.5-397B-A17B on H200
Ranked by tokens/s per GPU · 8,192-token SFT rows · global batch 128 · BF16
| # | Tokens/s per GPU | $ / 1M tokens | GPUs | Layout | Measured | Author | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| #1 | 545.3 | $4.03 | 128 | TP2 PP4 EP32 DP16 max 8,192 tokens/GPU, no offload | 2026-10-11 | ATTUNE | Recipe › |
| #2 | 506.7 | $4.34 | 128 | TP1 PP4 EP32 DP32 max 8,192 tokens/GPU, no offload | 2026-10-13 | ATTUNE | Recipe › |
| #3 | 469.2 | $4.68 | 128 | TP2 PP2 EP64 DP32 max 8,192 tokens/GPU, no offload | 2026-10-13 | ATTUNE | Recipe › |
Recipes
#1attune-tp2-pp4-ep32545.3 tokens/s/GPUTP2 PP4 EP32 DP16max 8,192 tokens/GPU, no offload
- Author
- ATTUNE (cite)
- GPUs
- 128 x H200 141 GB (AWS p5en.48xlarge, 8 per node)
- Layout
- TP 2, PP 4, CP 1, EP 32, ETP 1, DP 16; one 8,192-token row per microbatch; full recompute (uniform, 1 layer); precision-aware distributed optimizer; MoE permute fusion; alltoall dispatcher; no offload
- Tokens/s per GPU
- 545.32
- $ / 1M tokens
- $4.03
- MFU
- 5.4% (N = 16,331,407,360 active parameters per token)
- Step-time CV
- 1.14%
- Convergence check
- correlation 0.99999, final loss difference 8.4e-05, 0 pointwise failures over 20 steps
- Component test
- precision-aware Adam on GPU (TE FusedAdam, FP32 masters stored as BF16 parameter plus remainder) against an FP64 reference: H200, 2026-10-11. Shape: one Qwen3.5-397B-A17B MoE layer: hidden 4096, 512 experts, top-10, expert FFN 1024, EP 8, ETP 1, 4,096 tokens per rank. worst tensor (update) relative L2 error 5.12e-7 against a bound of 1.0e-3 after one step, and within bound after three steps at the entry's hyperparameters; reconstructed FP32 masters bitwise identical to an arm with explicit FP32 masters; the negative controls fail
- Measured
- 2026-10-11, 14-step run scored over steps 4–13
- GPU-hours
- 68.9
- Rows
qwen35-tulu3-fixed8192-v1(rows_sha2567a837641dcde9ebcac9d3ed5ed84ddd941fc9bfc173606cc701e9a3f51c307f1)
Stack
- framework
- slime 0.3.0: THUDM/slime a897e1f plus 8 commits that do not change the training step
- megatron lm
- commit 1dcf0daf (megatron-core 0.16.0rc0), with a backported upstream fix for the Qwen3.5 attention output gate at TP above the query-group count
- transformer engine
- 2.10.0
- pytorch
- 2.11.0 (CUDA 12.9 build)
- cuda
- 12.9
- nccl
- 2.28.9 (CUDA 12.9 build; printed by the measured run)
- deepep
- 1.2.1
- python
- 3.12
- network
- 8 GPUs per node, EFA, 3.2 Tb/s RDMA per node
Environment
CUDA_DEVICE_MAX_CONNECTIONS=1PYTORCH_CUDA_ALLOC_CONF=expandable_segments:TrueTORCHINDUCTOR_COMPILE_THREADS=1NCCL_NVLS_ENABLE=$([ "$NVLINK_COUNT" -gt 0 ] && echo 1 || echo 0)
export CUDA_DEVICE_MAX_CONNECTIONS=1
export PYTORCH_CUDA_ALLOC_CONF=expandable_segments:True
export TORCHINDUCTOR_COMPILE_THREADS=1
export NCCL_NVLS_ENABLE=$([ "$NVLINK_COUNT" -gt 0 ] && echo 1 || echo 0)
python3 -m <slime entry module> --async \
--actor-num-nodes 16 \
--actor-num-gpus-per-node 8 \
${MODEL_ARGS[@]} \
--hf-checkpoint "$HF_CKPT" \
--ref-load "$TORCH_DIST" \
--rollout-function-path pretokenized_sft_rollout.generate_rollout \
--prompt-data "$SFT_DATA" \
--input-key messages \
--metadata-key metadata \
--num-rollout 14 \
--rollout-batch-size 128 \
--global-batch-size 128 \
--loss-type sft_loss \
--calculate-per-token-loss \
--disable-compute-advantages-and-returns \
--debug-train-only \
--tensor-model-parallel-size 2 \
--pipeline-model-parallel-size 4 \
--context-parallel-size 1 \
--expert-model-parallel-size 32 \
--expert-tensor-parallel-size 1 \
--sequence-parallel \
--recompute-granularity full \
--recompute-method uniform \
--recompute-num-layers 1 \
--use-dynamic-batch-size \
--max-tokens-per-gpu 8192 \
--data-pad-size-multiplier 256 \
--optimizer adam --lr 1e-5 --lr-decay-style cosine --min-lr 1e-6 \
--lr-warmup-fraction 0.1 --weight-decay 0.1 --adam-beta1 0.9 --adam-beta2 0.98 \
--use-distributed-optimizer \
--use-precision-aware-optimizer \
--attention-dropout 0.0 --hidden-dropout 0.0 \
--accumulate-allreduce-grads-in-fp32 --attention-softmax-in-fp32 \
--attention-backend flash \
--distributed-timeout-minutes 30
# recipes/qwen3.5-397b-a17b/h200/attune-tp2-pp4-ep32.yaml
# An OpenRecipes recipe; the fields are documented in schema/recipe.schema.yaml.
schema_version: 1
model: Qwen3.5-397B-A17B
gpu:
type: H200
memory_gb: 141
count: 128
per_node: 8
instance: AWS p5en.48xlarge
author:
name: ATTUNE
url: https://arxiv.org/abs/2610.17528
status: verified
stack:
framework: 'slime 0.3.0: THUDM/slime a897e1f plus 8 commits that do not change the training step'
megatron_lm: commit 1dcf0daf (megatron-core 0.16.0rc0), with a backported upstream fix for the Qwen3.5 attention output
gate at TP above the query-group count
transformer_engine: 2.10.0
pytorch: 2.11.0 (CUDA 12.9 build)
cuda: '12.9'
nccl: 2.28.9 (CUDA 12.9 build; printed by the measured run)
deepep: 1.2.1
python: '3.12'
network: 8 GPUs per node, EFA, 3.2 Tb/s RDMA per node
source: 'in-pod environment dump of the measured run''s training image (same digest), taken by the component tests on
2026-10-11: installed TE, PyTorch and DeepEP, Megatron-LM git commit; NCCL from the measured run''s log'
workload:
row_tokens: 8192
rows: SFT conversations
global_batch: 128
precision: bf16
dataset:
name: Tulu 3 SFT mixture
source: allenai/tulu-3-sft-mixture
revision: b14afda60f1bbebe55d5d2fa1e4df5042f97f8be
license: ODC-By 1.0
rows_sha256: 7a837641dcde9ebcac9d3ed5ed84ddd941fc9bfc173606cc701e9a3f51c307f1
build:
name: qwen35-tulu3-fixed8192-v1
tokenizer: Qwen3.5 (the Qwen3.5-122B-A10B tokenizer; tokenizer.json sha256 5f9e4d4901a92b997e463c1f46055088b6cca5ca61a6522d1b9f64c4bb81cb42)
loss_mask: qwen3_5
rows: 6400
row_tokens: 8192
padding_tokens: 0
seed: 42
packing: source conversations in a seeded global permutation, concatenated with an EOS token between them and cut
into consecutive 8,192-token rows; rows without supervised targets are skipped
supervised_token_ratio: 0.676
parquet_sha256: f215bdc6aba60d6d0dff4471eaef805765cb393e40b95762190535376491ab01
parquet_bytes: 76127393
builder: data/generate_fixed_sft.py (data/README.md)
layout:
label: TP2 PP4 EP32 DP16
summary: TP 2, PP 4, CP 1, EP 32, ETP 1, DP 16; one 8,192-token row per microbatch; full recompute (uniform, 1 layer);
precision-aware distributed optimizer; MoE permute fusion; alltoall dispatcher; no offload
highlights: max 8,192 tokens/GPU, no offload
tp: 2
pp: 4
vpp: 1
cp: 1
ep: 32
etp: 1
dp: 16
sequence_parallel: true
layer_split: null
max_tokens_per_gpu: 8192
rows_per_microbatch: 1
recompute:
granularity: full
method: uniform
num_layers: 1
offload: null
dispatcher: alltoall
result:
tokens_per_s_per_gpu: 545.32
usd_per_million_tokens: 4.03
step_time_cv_percent: 1.14
mfu: 0.054
mfu_note: null
active_params:
count: 16331407360
source: https://huggingface.co/Qwen/Qwen3.5-397B-A17B
revision: 8472618112abcbd45acbcdc58436aff4233c23f7
measured: 2026-10-11
steps_per_run: 14
window:
- 4
- 13
window_tokens: 10485760
runs: 1
profiler: false
gpu_hours: 68.9
gpu_hours_note: GPUs x (job start to end), including startup
correctness:
result: pass
summary: passed; the on-GPU optimizer passed its component test at this model's shape
reference: Not published.
configuration: pass
component_tests:
- test: precision-aware Adam on GPU (TE FusedAdam, FP32 masters stored as BF16 parameter plus remainder) against an
FP64 reference
shape: 'one Qwen3.5-397B-A17B MoE layer: hidden 4096, 512 experts, top-10, expert FFN 1024, EP 8, ETP 1, 4,096 tokens
per rank'
gpu: H200
date: 2026-10-11
result: pass
detail: worst tensor (update) relative L2 error 5.12e-7 against a bound of 1.0e-3 after one step, and within bound
after three steps at the entry's hyperparameters; reconstructed FP32 masters bitwise identical to an arm with explicit
FP32 masters; the negative controls fail
convergence:
steps: 20
result: pass
correlation: 0.99999
final_loss_difference: 8.4e-05
pointwise_failures: 0
rules: argument classes of ATTUNE's skill/scripts/correctness/rules/numerics_list.yaml; 20-step check by Megatron-Bridge
validate_convergence with its pipeline thresholds
env:
CUDA_DEVICE_MAX_CONNECTIONS: '1'
PYTORCH_CUDA_ALLOC_CONF: expandable_segments:True
TORCHINDUCTOR_COMPILE_THREADS: '1'
NCCL_NVLS_ENABLE: $([ "$NVLINK_COUNT" -gt 0 ] && echo 1 || echo 0)
patches: []
run: |
export CUDA_DEVICE_MAX_CONNECTIONS=1
export PYTORCH_CUDA_ALLOC_CONF=expandable_segments:True
export TORCHINDUCTOR_COMPILE_THREADS=1
export NCCL_NVLS_ENABLE=$([ "$NVLINK_COUNT" -gt 0 ] && echo 1 || echo 0)
python3 -m <slime entry module> --async \
--actor-num-nodes 16 \
--actor-num-gpus-per-node 8 \
${MODEL_ARGS[@]} \
--hf-checkpoint "$HF_CKPT" \
--ref-load "$TORCH_DIST" \
--rollout-function-path pretokenized_sft_rollout.generate_rollout \
--prompt-data "$SFT_DATA" \
--input-key messages \
--metadata-key metadata \
--num-rollout 14 \
--rollout-batch-size 128 \
--global-batch-size 128 \
--loss-type sft_loss \
--calculate-per-token-loss \
--disable-compute-advantages-and-returns \
--debug-train-only \
--tensor-model-parallel-size 2 \
--pipeline-model-parallel-size 4 \
--context-parallel-size 1 \
--expert-model-parallel-size 32 \
--expert-tensor-parallel-size 1 \
--sequence-parallel \
--recompute-granularity full \
--recompute-method uniform \
--recompute-num-layers 1 \
--use-dynamic-batch-size \
--max-tokens-per-gpu 8192 \
--data-pad-size-multiplier 256 \
--optimizer adam --lr 1e-5 --lr-decay-style cosine --min-lr 1e-6 \
--lr-warmup-fraction 0.1 --weight-decay 0.1 --adam-beta1 0.9 --adam-beta2 0.98 \
--use-distributed-optimizer \
--use-precision-aware-optimizer \
--attention-dropout 0.0 --hidden-dropout 0.0 \
--accumulate-allreduce-grads-in-fp32 --attention-softmax-in-fp32 \
--attention-backend flash \
--distributed-timeout-minutes 30
#2attune-tp1-pp4-ep32506.7 tokens/s/GPUTP1 PP4 EP32 DP32max 8,192 tokens/GPU, no offload
- Author
- ATTUNE (cite)
- GPUs
- 128 x H200 141 GB (AWS p5en.48xlarge, 8 per node)
- Layout
- TP 1, PP 4, CP 1, EP 32, ETP 1, DP 32; one 8,192-token row per microbatch; full recompute (uniform, 1 layer); precision-aware distributed optimizer; alltoall dispatcher; no offload
- Tokens/s per GPU
- 506.73
- $ / 1M tokens
- $4.34
- MFU
- 5.0% (N = 16,331,407,360 active parameters per token)
- Step-time CV
- 0.77%
- Convergence check
- correlation 0.999999, final loss difference 1.9e-05, 0 pointwise failures over 20 steps
- Component test
- precision-aware Adam on GPU (TE FusedAdam, FP32 masters stored as BF16 parameter plus remainder) against an FP64 reference: H200, 2026-10-11. Shape: one Qwen3.5-397B-A17B MoE layer: hidden 4096, 512 experts, top-10, expert FFN 1024, EP 8, ETP 1, 4,096 tokens per rank. worst tensor (update) relative L2 error 5.12e-7 against a bound of 1.0e-3 after one step, and within bound after three steps at the entry's hyperparameters; reconstructed FP32 masters bitwise identical to an arm with explicit FP32 masters; the negative controls fail
- Measured
- 2026-10-13
- GPU-hours
- 38.04
- Rows
qwen35-tulu3-fixed8192-v1(rows_sha2567a837641dcde9ebcac9d3ed5ed84ddd941fc9bfc173606cc701e9a3f51c307f1)
Stack
- framework
- slime 0.3.0: THUDM/slime a897e1f plus 8 commits that do not change the training step
- megatron lm
- commit 1dcf0daf (megatron-core 0.16.0rc0), with a backported upstream fix for the Qwen3.5 attention output gate at TP above the query-group count
- transformer engine
- 2.10.0
- pytorch
- 2.11.0 (CUDA 12.9 build)
- cuda
- 12.9
- nccl
- 2.28.9 (CUDA 12.9 build; printed by the measured run)
- deepep
- 1.2.1
- python
- 3.12
- network
- 8 GPUs per node, EFA, 3.2 Tb/s RDMA per node
Environment
CUDA_DEVICE_MAX_CONNECTIONS=1PYTORCH_CUDA_ALLOC_CONF=expandable_segments:TrueTORCHINDUCTOR_COMPILE_THREADS=1NCCL_NVLS_ENABLE=$([ "$NVLINK_COUNT" -gt 0 ] && echo 1 || echo 0)
export CUDA_DEVICE_MAX_CONNECTIONS=1
export PYTORCH_CUDA_ALLOC_CONF=expandable_segments:True
export TORCHINDUCTOR_COMPILE_THREADS=1
export NCCL_NVLS_ENABLE=$([ "$NVLINK_COUNT" -gt 0 ] && echo 1 || echo 0)
python3 -m <slime entry module> --async \
--actor-num-nodes 16 \
--actor-num-gpus-per-node 8 \
${MODEL_ARGS[@]} \
--hf-checkpoint "$HF_CKPT" \
--ref-load "$TORCH_DIST" \
--rollout-function-path pretokenized_sft_rollout.generate_rollout \
--prompt-data "$SFT_DATA" \
--input-key messages \
--metadata-key metadata \
--num-rollout 20 \
--rollout-batch-size 128 \
--global-batch-size 128 \
--loss-type sft_loss \
--calculate-per-token-loss \
--disable-compute-advantages-and-returns \
--debug-train-only \
--tensor-model-parallel-size 1 \
--pipeline-model-parallel-size 4 \
--context-parallel-size 1 \
--expert-model-parallel-size 32 \
--expert-tensor-parallel-size 1 \
--recompute-granularity full \
--recompute-method uniform \
--recompute-num-layers 1 \
--use-dynamic-batch-size \
--max-tokens-per-gpu 8192 \
--data-pad-size-multiplier 256 \
--optimizer adam --lr 1e-5 --lr-decay-style cosine --min-lr 1e-6 \
--lr-warmup-fraction 0.1 --weight-decay 0.1 --adam-beta1 0.9 --adam-beta2 0.98 \
--use-distributed-optimizer \
--use-precision-aware-optimizer \
--attention-dropout 0.0 --hidden-dropout 0.0 \
--accumulate-allreduce-grads-in-fp32 --attention-softmax-in-fp32 \
--attention-backend flash \
--distributed-timeout-minutes 30
# recipes/qwen3.5-397b-a17b/h200/attune-tp1-pp4-ep32.yaml
# An OpenRecipes recipe; the fields are documented in schema/recipe.schema.yaml.
schema_version: 1
model: Qwen3.5-397B-A17B
gpu:
type: H200
memory_gb: 141
count: 128
per_node: 8
instance: AWS p5en.48xlarge
author:
name: ATTUNE
url: https://arxiv.org/abs/2610.17528
status: verified
stack:
framework: 'slime 0.3.0: THUDM/slime a897e1f plus 8 commits that do not change the training step'
megatron_lm: commit 1dcf0daf (megatron-core 0.16.0rc0), with a backported upstream fix for the Qwen3.5 attention output
gate at TP above the query-group count
transformer_engine: 2.10.0
pytorch: 2.11.0 (CUDA 12.9 build)
cuda: '12.9'
nccl: 2.28.9 (CUDA 12.9 build; printed by the measured run)
deepep: 1.2.1
python: '3.12'
network: 8 GPUs per node, EFA, 3.2 Tb/s RDMA per node
source: 'in-pod environment dump of the measured run''s training image (same digest), taken by the component tests on
2026-10-11: installed TE, PyTorch and DeepEP, Megatron-LM git commit; NCCL from the measured run''s log'
workload:
row_tokens: 8192
rows: SFT conversations
global_batch: 128
precision: bf16
dataset:
name: Tulu 3 SFT mixture
source: allenai/tulu-3-sft-mixture
revision: b14afda60f1bbebe55d5d2fa1e4df5042f97f8be
license: ODC-By 1.0
rows_sha256: 7a837641dcde9ebcac9d3ed5ed84ddd941fc9bfc173606cc701e9a3f51c307f1
build:
name: qwen35-tulu3-fixed8192-v1
tokenizer: Qwen3.5 (the Qwen3.5-122B-A10B tokenizer; tokenizer.json sha256 5f9e4d4901a92b997e463c1f46055088b6cca5ca61a6522d1b9f64c4bb81cb42)
loss_mask: qwen3_5
rows: 6400
row_tokens: 8192
padding_tokens: 0
seed: 42
packing: source conversations in a seeded global permutation, concatenated with an EOS token between them and cut
into consecutive 8,192-token rows; rows without supervised targets are skipped
supervised_token_ratio: 0.676
parquet_sha256: f215bdc6aba60d6d0dff4471eaef805765cb393e40b95762190535376491ab01
parquet_bytes: 76127393
builder: data/generate_fixed_sft.py (data/README.md)
layout:
label: TP1 PP4 EP32 DP32
summary: TP 1, PP 4, CP 1, EP 32, ETP 1, DP 32; one 8,192-token row per microbatch; full recompute (uniform, 1 layer);
precision-aware distributed optimizer; alltoall dispatcher; no offload
highlights: max 8,192 tokens/GPU, no offload
tp: 1
pp: 4
vpp: 1
cp: 1
ep: 32
etp: 1
dp: 32
sequence_parallel: false
layer_split: null
max_tokens_per_gpu: 8192
rows_per_microbatch: 1
recompute:
granularity: full
method: uniform
num_layers: 1
offload: null
dispatcher: alltoall
result:
tokens_per_s_per_gpu: 506.73
usd_per_million_tokens: 4.34
step_time_cv_percent: 0.77
mfu: 0.0502
mfu_note: null
active_params:
count: 16331407360
source: https://huggingface.co/Qwen/Qwen3.5-397B-A17B
revision: 8472618112abcbd45acbcdc58436aff4233c23f7
measured: 2026-10-13
steps_per_run: 20
window:
- 5
- 19
window_tokens: 15728640
runs: 1
profiler: false
gpu_hours: 38.04
gpu_hours_note: GPUs x (scheduler admission to finish), including startup; the same run is the candidate arm of the
convergence check
correctness:
result: pass
summary: passed; 1 component test passed at this model's shape
reference: Not published.
configuration: pass
component_tests:
- test: precision-aware Adam on GPU (TE FusedAdam, FP32 masters stored as BF16 parameter plus remainder) against an
FP64 reference
shape: 'one Qwen3.5-397B-A17B MoE layer: hidden 4096, 512 experts, top-10, expert FFN 1024, EP 8, ETP 1, 4,096 tokens
per rank'
gpu: H200
date: 2026-10-11
result: pass
detail: worst tensor (update) relative L2 error 5.12e-7 against a bound of 1.0e-3 after one step, and within bound
after three steps at the entry's hyperparameters; reconstructed FP32 masters bitwise identical to an arm with explicit
FP32 masters; the negative controls fail
convergence:
steps: 20
result: pass
correlation: 0.999999
final_loss_difference: 1.9e-05
pointwise_failures: 0
note: 'candidate arm: the measured run; reference arm: a 20-step run of the reference recipe on the same image and
rows; the parity probe off in both'
rules: argument classes of ATTUNE's skill/scripts/correctness/rules/numerics_list.yaml; 20-step check by Megatron-Bridge
validate_convergence with its pipeline thresholds
env:
CUDA_DEVICE_MAX_CONNECTIONS: '1'
PYTORCH_CUDA_ALLOC_CONF: expandable_segments:True
TORCHINDUCTOR_COMPILE_THREADS: '1'
NCCL_NVLS_ENABLE: $([ "$NVLINK_COUNT" -gt 0 ] && echo 1 || echo 0)
patches: []
run: |
export CUDA_DEVICE_MAX_CONNECTIONS=1
export PYTORCH_CUDA_ALLOC_CONF=expandable_segments:True
export TORCHINDUCTOR_COMPILE_THREADS=1
export NCCL_NVLS_ENABLE=$([ "$NVLINK_COUNT" -gt 0 ] && echo 1 || echo 0)
python3 -m <slime entry module> --async \
--actor-num-nodes 16 \
--actor-num-gpus-per-node 8 \
${MODEL_ARGS[@]} \
--hf-checkpoint "$HF_CKPT" \
--ref-load "$TORCH_DIST" \
--rollout-function-path pretokenized_sft_rollout.generate_rollout \
--prompt-data "$SFT_DATA" \
--input-key messages \
--metadata-key metadata \
--num-rollout 20 \
--rollout-batch-size 128 \
--global-batch-size 128 \
--loss-type sft_loss \
--calculate-per-token-loss \
--disable-compute-advantages-and-returns \
--debug-train-only \
--tensor-model-parallel-size 1 \
--pipeline-model-parallel-size 4 \
--context-parallel-size 1 \
--expert-model-parallel-size 32 \
--expert-tensor-parallel-size 1 \
--recompute-granularity full \
--recompute-method uniform \
--recompute-num-layers 1 \
--use-dynamic-batch-size \
--max-tokens-per-gpu 8192 \
--data-pad-size-multiplier 256 \
--optimizer adam --lr 1e-5 --lr-decay-style cosine --min-lr 1e-6 \
--lr-warmup-fraction 0.1 --weight-decay 0.1 --adam-beta1 0.9 --adam-beta2 0.98 \
--use-distributed-optimizer \
--use-precision-aware-optimizer \
--attention-dropout 0.0 --hidden-dropout 0.0 \
--accumulate-allreduce-grads-in-fp32 --attention-softmax-in-fp32 \
--attention-backend flash \
--distributed-timeout-minutes 30
#3attune-tp2-pp2-ep64469.2 tokens/s/GPUTP2 PP2 EP64 DP32max 8,192 tokens/GPU, no offload
- Author
- ATTUNE (cite)
- GPUs
- 128 x H200 141 GB (AWS p5en.48xlarge, 8 per node)
- Layout
- TP 2, PP 2, CP 1, EP 64, ETP 1, DP 32, sequence parallel; one 8,192-token row per microbatch; full recompute (uniform, 1 layer); precision-aware distributed optimizer; alltoall dispatcher; no offload
- Tokens/s per GPU
- 469.19
- $ / 1M tokens
- $4.68
- MFU
- 4.7% (N = 16,331,407,360 active parameters per token)
- Step-time CV
- 1.17%
- Convergence check
- correlation 0.999999, final loss difference 3.3e-05, 0 pointwise failures over 20 steps
- Component test
- precision-aware Adam on GPU (TE FusedAdam, FP32 masters stored as BF16 parameter plus remainder) against an FP64 reference: H200, 2026-10-11. Shape: one Qwen3.5-397B-A17B MoE layer: hidden 4096, 512 experts, top-10, expert FFN 1024, EP 8, ETP 1, 4,096 tokens per rank. worst tensor (update) relative L2 error 5.12e-7 against a bound of 1.0e-3 after one step, and within bound after three steps at the entry's hyperparameters; reconstructed FP32 masters bitwise identical to an arm with explicit FP32 masters; the negative controls fail
- Measured
- 2026-10-13
- GPU-hours
- 31.25
- Rows
qwen35-tulu3-fixed8192-v1(rows_sha2567a837641dcde9ebcac9d3ed5ed84ddd941fc9bfc173606cc701e9a3f51c307f1)
Stack
- framework
- slime 0.3.0: THUDM/slime a897e1f plus 8 commits that do not change the training step
- megatron lm
- commit 1dcf0daf (megatron-core 0.16.0rc0), with a backported upstream fix for the Qwen3.5 attention output gate at TP above the query-group count
- transformer engine
- 2.10.0
- pytorch
- 2.11.0 (CUDA 12.9 build)
- cuda
- 12.9
- nccl
- 2.28.9 (CUDA 12.9 build; printed by the measured run)
- deepep
- 1.2.1
- python
- 3.12
- network
- 8 GPUs per node, EFA, 3.2 Tb/s RDMA per node
Environment
CUDA_DEVICE_MAX_CONNECTIONS=1PYTORCH_CUDA_ALLOC_CONF=expandable_segments:TrueTORCHINDUCTOR_COMPILE_THREADS=1NCCL_NVLS_ENABLE=$([ "$NVLINK_COUNT" -gt 0 ] && echo 1 || echo 0)
export CUDA_DEVICE_MAX_CONNECTIONS=1
export PYTORCH_CUDA_ALLOC_CONF=expandable_segments:True
export TORCHINDUCTOR_COMPILE_THREADS=1
export NCCL_NVLS_ENABLE=$([ "$NVLINK_COUNT" -gt 0 ] && echo 1 || echo 0)
python3 -m <slime entry module> --async \
--actor-num-nodes 16 \
--actor-num-gpus-per-node 8 \
${MODEL_ARGS[@]} \
--hf-checkpoint "$HF_CKPT" \
--ref-load "$TORCH_DIST" \
--rollout-function-path pretokenized_sft_rollout.generate_rollout \
--prompt-data "$SFT_DATA" \
--input-key messages \
--metadata-key metadata \
--num-rollout 20 \
--rollout-batch-size 128 \
--global-batch-size 128 \
--loss-type sft_loss \
--calculate-per-token-loss \
--disable-compute-advantages-and-returns \
--debug-train-only \
--tensor-model-parallel-size 2 \
--pipeline-model-parallel-size 2 \
--context-parallel-size 1 \
--expert-model-parallel-size 64 \
--expert-tensor-parallel-size 1 \
--sequence-parallel \
--recompute-granularity full \
--recompute-method uniform \
--recompute-num-layers 1 \
--use-dynamic-batch-size \
--max-tokens-per-gpu 8192 \
--data-pad-size-multiplier 256 \
--optimizer adam --lr 1e-5 --lr-decay-style cosine --min-lr 1e-6 \
--lr-warmup-fraction 0.1 --weight-decay 0.1 --adam-beta1 0.9 --adam-beta2 0.98 \
--use-distributed-optimizer \
--use-precision-aware-optimizer \
--attention-dropout 0.0 --hidden-dropout 0.0 \
--accumulate-allreduce-grads-in-fp32 --attention-softmax-in-fp32 \
--attention-backend flash \
--distributed-timeout-minutes 30
# recipes/qwen3.5-397b-a17b/h200/attune-tp2-pp2-ep64.yaml
# An OpenRecipes recipe; the fields are documented in schema/recipe.schema.yaml.
schema_version: 1
model: Qwen3.5-397B-A17B
gpu:
type: H200
memory_gb: 141
count: 128
per_node: 8
instance: AWS p5en.48xlarge
author:
name: ATTUNE
url: https://arxiv.org/abs/2610.17528
status: verified
stack:
framework: 'slime 0.3.0: THUDM/slime a897e1f plus 8 commits that do not change the training step'
megatron_lm: commit 1dcf0daf (megatron-core 0.16.0rc0), with a backported upstream fix for the Qwen3.5 attention output
gate at TP above the query-group count
transformer_engine: 2.10.0
pytorch: 2.11.0 (CUDA 12.9 build)
cuda: '12.9'
nccl: 2.28.9 (CUDA 12.9 build; printed by the measured run)
deepep: 1.2.1
python: '3.12'
network: 8 GPUs per node, EFA, 3.2 Tb/s RDMA per node
source: 'in-pod environment dump of the measured run''s training image (same digest), taken by the component tests on
2026-10-11: installed TE, PyTorch and DeepEP, Megatron-LM git commit; NCCL from the measured run''s log'
workload:
row_tokens: 8192
rows: SFT conversations
global_batch: 128
precision: bf16
dataset:
name: Tulu 3 SFT mixture
source: allenai/tulu-3-sft-mixture
revision: b14afda60f1bbebe55d5d2fa1e4df5042f97f8be
license: ODC-By 1.0
rows_sha256: 7a837641dcde9ebcac9d3ed5ed84ddd941fc9bfc173606cc701e9a3f51c307f1
build:
name: qwen35-tulu3-fixed8192-v1
tokenizer: Qwen3.5 (the Qwen3.5-122B-A10B tokenizer; tokenizer.json sha256 5f9e4d4901a92b997e463c1f46055088b6cca5ca61a6522d1b9f64c4bb81cb42)
loss_mask: qwen3_5
rows: 6400
row_tokens: 8192
padding_tokens: 0
seed: 42
packing: source conversations in a seeded global permutation, concatenated with an EOS token between them and cut
into consecutive 8,192-token rows; rows without supervised targets are skipped
supervised_token_ratio: 0.676
parquet_sha256: f215bdc6aba60d6d0dff4471eaef805765cb393e40b95762190535376491ab01
parquet_bytes: 76127393
builder: data/generate_fixed_sft.py (data/README.md)
layout:
label: TP2 PP2 EP64 DP32
summary: TP 2, PP 2, CP 1, EP 64, ETP 1, DP 32, sequence parallel; one 8,192-token row per microbatch; full recompute
(uniform, 1 layer); precision-aware distributed optimizer; alltoall dispatcher; no offload
highlights: max 8,192 tokens/GPU, no offload
tp: 2
pp: 2
vpp: 1
cp: 1
ep: 64
etp: 1
dp: 32
sequence_parallel: true
layer_split: null
max_tokens_per_gpu: 8192
rows_per_microbatch: 1
recompute:
granularity: full
method: uniform
num_layers: 1
offload: null
dispatcher: alltoall
result:
tokens_per_s_per_gpu: 469.19
usd_per_million_tokens: 4.68
step_time_cv_percent: 1.17
mfu: 0.0465
mfu_note: null
active_params:
count: 16331407360
source: https://huggingface.co/Qwen/Qwen3.5-397B-A17B
revision: 8472618112abcbd45acbcdc58436aff4233c23f7
measured: 2026-10-13
steps_per_run: 20
window:
- 5
- 19
window_tokens: 15728640
runs: 1
profiler: false
gpu_hours: 31.25
gpu_hours_note: GPUs x (scheduler admission to finish), including startup; the same run is the candidate arm of the
convergence check
correctness:
result: pass
summary: passed; 1 component test passed at this model's shape
reference: Not published.
configuration: pass
component_tests:
- test: precision-aware Adam on GPU (TE FusedAdam, FP32 masters stored as BF16 parameter plus remainder) against an
FP64 reference
shape: 'one Qwen3.5-397B-A17B MoE layer: hidden 4096, 512 experts, top-10, expert FFN 1024, EP 8, ETP 1, 4,096 tokens
per rank'
gpu: H200
date: 2026-10-11
result: pass
detail: worst tensor (update) relative L2 error 5.12e-7 against a bound of 1.0e-3 after one step, and within bound
after three steps at the entry's hyperparameters; reconstructed FP32 masters bitwise identical to an arm with explicit
FP32 masters; the negative controls fail
convergence:
steps: 20
result: pass
correlation: 0.999999
final_loss_difference: 3.3e-05
pointwise_failures: 0
note: 'candidate arm: the measured run; reference arm: a 20-step run of the reference recipe on the same image and
rows; the parity probe off in both'
rules: argument classes of ATTUNE's skill/scripts/correctness/rules/numerics_list.yaml; 20-step check by Megatron-Bridge
validate_convergence with its pipeline thresholds
env:
CUDA_DEVICE_MAX_CONNECTIONS: '1'
PYTORCH_CUDA_ALLOC_CONF: expandable_segments:True
TORCHINDUCTOR_COMPILE_THREADS: '1'
NCCL_NVLS_ENABLE: $([ "$NVLINK_COUNT" -gt 0 ] && echo 1 || echo 0)
patches: []
run: |
export CUDA_DEVICE_MAX_CONNECTIONS=1
export PYTORCH_CUDA_ALLOC_CONF=expandable_segments:True
export TORCHINDUCTOR_COMPILE_THREADS=1
export NCCL_NVLS_ENABLE=$([ "$NVLINK_COUNT" -gt 0 ] && echo 1 || echo 0)
python3 -m <slime entry module> --async \
--actor-num-nodes 16 \
--actor-num-gpus-per-node 8 \
${MODEL_ARGS[@]} \
--hf-checkpoint "$HF_CKPT" \
--ref-load "$TORCH_DIST" \
--rollout-function-path pretokenized_sft_rollout.generate_rollout \
--prompt-data "$SFT_DATA" \
--input-key messages \
--metadata-key metadata \
--num-rollout 20 \
--rollout-batch-size 128 \
--global-batch-size 128 \
--loss-type sft_loss \
--calculate-per-token-loss \
--disable-compute-advantages-and-returns \
--debug-train-only \
--tensor-model-parallel-size 2 \
--pipeline-model-parallel-size 2 \
--context-parallel-size 1 \
--expert-model-parallel-size 64 \
--expert-tensor-parallel-size 1 \
--sequence-parallel \
--recompute-granularity full \
--recompute-method uniform \
--recompute-num-layers 1 \
--use-dynamic-batch-size \
--max-tokens-per-gpu 8192 \
--data-pad-size-multiplier 256 \
--optimizer adam --lr 1e-5 --lr-decay-style cosine --min-lr 1e-6 \
--lr-warmup-fraction 0.1 --weight-decay 0.1 --adam-beta1 0.9 --adam-beta2 0.98 \
--use-distributed-optimizer \
--use-precision-aware-optimizer \
--attention-dropout 0.0 --hidden-dropout 0.0 \
--accumulate-allreduce-grads-in-fp32 --attention-softmax-in-fp32 \
--attention-backend flash \
--distributed-timeout-minutes 30
Citation
If you use a recipe by ATTUNE, please cite the paper.
@article{fan2026attune,
title = {{ATTUNE: Agentic Throughput Tuning for LLM Training}},
author = {Leo Fan and Hongyang Wang and Wenbo Chen and Jingguo Liu and Xian Li and Xuan Wang and
Ruochen Wen and Yiming Yan and Hao Wu and Zheshen Wang and Benoit Dumoulin},
journal = {arXiv preprint arXiv:2610.17528},
year = {2026},
url = {https://arxiv.org/abs/2610.17528}
}
Qwen3.5-397B-A17B on other GPUs
H100 · 128 GPUs
313.3
tokens/s/GPU · $6.10 / 1M tokens
H200 · 128 GPUs · this page
545.3
tokens/s/GPU · $4.03 / 1M tokens
B200 · 64 GPUs
1,232.5
tokens/s/GPU · $3.21 / 1M tokens