Qwen
Training Qwen3.6-27B on H200
Ranked by tokens/s per GPU · 8,192-token SFT rows · global batch 128 · BF16
Notes for Qwen3.6-27B
MODEL_ARGS are slime's scripts/models/qwen3.5-27B.sh: Qwen3.6-27B has the Qwen3.5-27B architecture and the tokenizer of Qwen3.6-35B-A3B, so it trains on the Qwen3.5 rows.
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Recipes
#1attune-tp1-pp4-split16-rb122,499.5 tokens/s/GPUTP1 PP4 DP216/17/17/14 layer split, block recompute of 12 layers, no offload
- Starting point: slime's Qwen3.5-27B script,
scripts/run-qwen3.5-27B.shwithscripts/models/qwen3.5-27B.shat slime 0.3.0. slime ships it as a 4-node GRPO script and publishes no tokens/s figure for it. Ported to this workload on one 8-GPU node with its layout (TP 4 with sequence parallel, PP 2 with 34/30 layers, CP 1 in place of its CP 4, full recompute, Adam on the CPU), it measured 948.7 tokens/s/GPU on 8 H200; ATTUNE tuned it to 2,499.5 (+163%). - The first stage is at its memory limit: the tuning run with block recompute of 10 layers ran out of memory there. PP 2 at TP 1 ran out of memory on the last stage, which holds the FP32 logits of the 248,320-token vocabulary.
- Author
- ATTUNE (cite)
- GPUs
- 8 x H200 141 GB (AWS p5en.48xlarge, 8 per node)
- Layout
- TP 1, PP 4 (16/17/17/14 layers), CP 1, DP 2; one 8,192-token row per microbatch; full recompute of the first 12 layers of each stage (block); precision-aware distributed optimizer; no offload; dense model, no experts
- Tokens/s per GPU
- 2,499.52
- $ / 1M tokens
- $0.88
- MFU
- 38.9% (N = 25,623,920,640 active parameters per token)
- Step-time CV
- 0.39%
- Convergence check
- correlation 0.9999984, final loss difference 1.4e-05, 0 pointwise failures over 20 steps
- Component test
- precision-aware Adam on the GPU and CPU optimizer offload (fraction 1.0, overlapped copies), each against an FP64 reference: H200, 2026-10-11. Shape: one Qwen3.5-397B-A17B MoE layer: hidden 4096, 512 experts, top-10, expert FFN 1024, EP 8, ETP 1, 4,096 tokens per rank. worst tensor (update) relative L2 error 5.12e-7 on the GPU and 7.98e-7 offloaded against a bound of 1.0e-3 after one step, and 4.99e-5 and 7.72e-5 against 1.1e-3 after three steps at the recipe's hyperparameters (bound 2 x the default GPU optimizer's error + 1e-3); reconstructed FP32 masters bitwise identical to an arm with explicit FP32 masters, the TE remainder self-test passes and the negative controls fail run on this recipe's training image (the same image configuration); the optimizer step is elementwise, so the result holds for every model on the image
- Measured
- 2026-10-18
- GPU-hours
- 3.34
- Rows
qwen35-tulu3-fixed8192-v1(rows_sha2567a837641dcde9ebcac9d3ed5ed84ddd941fc9bfc173606cc701e9a3f51c307f1)
Stack
- framework
- slime 0.3.0: THUDM/slime a897e1f plus 8 commits that do not change the training step
- megatron lm
- commit 1dcf0daf (megatron-core 0.16.0rc0), with a backported upstream fix for the Qwen3.5 attention output gate at TP above the query-group count
- transformer engine
- 2.10.0
- pytorch
- 2.11.0 (CUDA 12.9 build)
- cuda
- 12.9
- nccl
- 2.28.9 (CUDA 12.9 build; printed by the measured run)
- deepep
- 1.2.1
- python
- 3.12.3
- network
- 8 GPUs per node, EFA, 3.2 Tb/s RDMA per node
Environment
CUDA_DEVICE_MAX_CONNECTIONS=1PYTORCH_CUDA_ALLOC_CONF=expandable_segments:TrueTORCHINDUCTOR_COMPILE_THREADS=1NCCL_NVLS_ENABLE=$([ "$NVLINK_COUNT" -gt 0 ] && echo 1 || echo 0)
export CUDA_DEVICE_MAX_CONNECTIONS=1
export PYTORCH_CUDA_ALLOC_CONF=expandable_segments:True
export TORCHINDUCTOR_COMPILE_THREADS=1
export NCCL_NVLS_ENABLE=$([ "$NVLINK_COUNT" -gt 0 ] && echo 1 || echo 0)
python3 -m <slime entry module> --async \
--actor-num-nodes 1 \
--actor-num-gpus-per-node 8 \
${MODEL_ARGS[@]} \
--hf-checkpoint "$HF_CKPT" \
--ref-load "$TORCH_DIST" \
--rollout-function-path pretokenized_sft_rollout.generate_rollout \
--prompt-data "$SFT_DATA" \
--input-key messages \
--metadata-key metadata \
--num-rollout 20 \
--rollout-batch-size 128 \
--global-batch-size 128 \
--loss-type sft_loss \
--loss-mask-type qwen3_5 \
--calculate-per-token-loss \
--disable-compute-advantages-and-returns \
--debug-train-only \
--tensor-model-parallel-size 1 \
--pipeline-model-parallel-size 4 \
--decoder-first-pipeline-num-layers 16 \
--decoder-last-pipeline-num-layers 14 \
--context-parallel-size 1 \
--expert-model-parallel-size 1 \
--expert-tensor-parallel-size 1 \
--recompute-granularity full \
--recompute-method block \
--recompute-num-layers 12 \
--use-dynamic-batch-size \
--max-tokens-per-gpu 8192 \
--optimizer adam --lr 1e-5 --lr-decay-style cosine --min-lr 1e-6 \
--lr-warmup-fraction 0.1 --weight-decay 0.1 --adam-beta1 0.9 --adam-beta2 0.98 \
--use-distributed-optimizer \
--use-precision-aware-optimizer \
--attention-dropout 0.0 --hidden-dropout 0.0 \
--accumulate-allreduce-grads-in-fp32 --attention-softmax-in-fp32 \
--attention-backend flash \
--distributed-timeout-minutes 30 \
--tensorboard-dir "$PROFILE_DIR"
# recipes/qwen3.6-27b/h200/attune-tp1-pp4-split16-rb12.yaml
# An OpenRecipes recipe; the fields are documented in schema/recipe.schema.yaml.
schema_version: 1
model: Qwen3.6-27B
gpu:
type: H200
memory_gb: 141
count: 8
per_node: 8
instance: AWS p5en.48xlarge
author:
name: ATTUNE
url: https://arxiv.org/abs/2610.17528
status: verified
stack:
framework: 'slime 0.3.0: THUDM/slime a897e1f plus 8 commits that do not change the training step'
megatron_lm: commit 1dcf0daf (megatron-core 0.16.0rc0), with a backported upstream fix for the Qwen3.5 attention output
gate at TP above the query-group count
transformer_engine: 2.10.0
pytorch: 2.11.0 (CUDA 12.9 build)
cuda: '12.9'
nccl: 2.28.9 (CUDA 12.9 build; printed by the measured run)
deepep: 1.2.1
python: 3.12.3
network: 8 GPUs per node, EFA, 3.2 Tb/s RDMA per node
source: 'in-pod version checks of the measured run''s training image, 2026-10-13 and 2026-10-18: installed TE, PyTorch,
DeepEP and megatron-core, Megatron-LM git commit, Python; NCCL from the measured run''s log'
workload:
row_tokens: 8192
rows: SFT conversations
global_batch: 128
precision: bf16
dataset:
name: Tulu 3 SFT mixture
source: allenai/tulu-3-sft-mixture
revision: b14afda60f1bbebe55d5d2fa1e4df5042f97f8be
license: ODC-By 1.0
rows_sha256: 7a837641dcde9ebcac9d3ed5ed84ddd941fc9bfc173606cc701e9a3f51c307f1
build:
name: qwen35-tulu3-fixed8192-v1
tokenizer: Qwen3.5 (the Qwen3.5-122B-A10B tokenizer; tokenizer.json sha256 5f9e4d4901a92b997e463c1f46055088b6cca5ca61a6522d1b9f64c4bb81cb42)
loss_mask: qwen3_5
rows: 6400
row_tokens: 8192
padding_tokens: 0
seed: 42
packing: source conversations in a seeded global permutation, concatenated with an EOS token between them and cut
into consecutive 8,192-token rows; rows without supervised targets are skipped
supervised_token_ratio: 0.676
parquet_sha256: f215bdc6aba60d6d0dff4471eaef805765cb393e40b95762190535376491ab01
parquet_bytes: 76127393
builder: data/generate_fixed_sft.py (data/README.md)
layout:
label: TP1 PP4 DP2
summary: TP 1, PP 4 (16/17/17/14 layers), CP 1, DP 2; one 8,192-token row per microbatch; full recompute of the first
12 layers of each stage (block); precision-aware distributed optimizer; no offload; dense model, no experts
highlights: 16/17/17/14 layer split, block recompute of 12 layers, no offload
tp: 1
pp: 4
vpp: 1
cp: 1
ep: 1
etp: 1
dp: 2
sequence_parallel: false
layer_split:
first: 16
last: 14
max_tokens_per_gpu: 8192
rows_per_microbatch: 1
recompute:
granularity: full
method: block
num_layers: 12
offload: null
dispatcher: null
result:
tokens_per_s_per_gpu: 2499.52
usd_per_million_tokens: 0.88
step_time_cv_percent: 0.39
mfu: 0.3886
mfu_note: null
active_params:
count: 25623920640
source: https://huggingface.co/Qwen/Qwen3.6-27B
revision: 6a9e13bd6fc8f0983b9b99948120bc37f49c13e9
measured: 2026-10-18
steps_per_run: 20
window:
- 5
- 19
window_tokens: 15728640
runs: 1
profiler: false
gpu_hours: 3.34
gpu_hours_note: GPUs x (scheduler admission to finish), including startup; the same run is the candidate arm of the
convergence check
correctness:
result: pass
summary: passed; 1 component test passed on this image
reference: 'The layout of slime''s `scripts/run-qwen3.5-27B.sh` on one 8-GPU node: TP 4 with sequence parallelism, PP
2 (first stage 34 layers, last 30), CP 1 in place of its CP 4, full recompute and CPU optimizer offload, with this
recipe''s optimizer settings.'
configuration: pass
component_tests:
- test: precision-aware Adam on the GPU and CPU optimizer offload (fraction 1.0, overlapped copies), each against an
FP64 reference
shape: 'one Qwen3.5-397B-A17B MoE layer: hidden 4096, 512 experts, top-10, expert FFN 1024, EP 8, ETP 1, 4,096 tokens
per rank'
gpu: H200
date: 2026-10-11
result: pass
detail: worst tensor (update) relative L2 error 5.12e-7 on the GPU and 7.98e-7 offloaded against a bound of 1.0e-3
after one step, and 4.99e-5 and 7.72e-5 against 1.1e-3 after three steps at the recipe's hyperparameters (bound
2 x the default GPU optimizer's error + 1e-3); reconstructed FP32 masters bitwise identical to an arm with explicit
FP32 masters, the TE remainder self-test passes and the negative controls fail
note: run on this recipe's training image (the same image configuration); the optimizer step is elementwise, so the
result holds for every model on the image
convergence:
steps: 20
result: pass
correlation: 0.9999984
final_loss_difference: 1.4e-05
pointwise_failures: 0
note: 'candidate arm: the measured run; reference arm: a 20-step run of the reference recipe on the same image and
rows; the parity probe off in both'
rules: argument classes of ATTUNE's skill/scripts/correctness/rules/numerics_list.yaml (amazon-science/attune f2cb450);
20-step check by Megatron-Bridge validate_convergence with its pipeline thresholds
env:
CUDA_DEVICE_MAX_CONNECTIONS: '1'
PYTORCH_CUDA_ALLOC_CONF: expandable_segments:True
TORCHINDUCTOR_COMPILE_THREADS: '1'
NCCL_NVLS_ENABLE: $([ "$NVLINK_COUNT" -gt 0 ] && echo 1 || echo 0)
patches: []
run: |
export CUDA_DEVICE_MAX_CONNECTIONS=1
export PYTORCH_CUDA_ALLOC_CONF=expandable_segments:True
export TORCHINDUCTOR_COMPILE_THREADS=1
export NCCL_NVLS_ENABLE=$([ "$NVLINK_COUNT" -gt 0 ] && echo 1 || echo 0)
python3 -m <slime entry module> --async \
--actor-num-nodes 1 \
--actor-num-gpus-per-node 8 \
${MODEL_ARGS[@]} \
--hf-checkpoint "$HF_CKPT" \
--ref-load "$TORCH_DIST" \
--rollout-function-path pretokenized_sft_rollout.generate_rollout \
--prompt-data "$SFT_DATA" \
--input-key messages \
--metadata-key metadata \
--num-rollout 20 \
--rollout-batch-size 128 \
--global-batch-size 128 \
--loss-type sft_loss \
--loss-mask-type qwen3_5 \
--calculate-per-token-loss \
--disable-compute-advantages-and-returns \
--debug-train-only \
--tensor-model-parallel-size 1 \
--pipeline-model-parallel-size 4 \
--decoder-first-pipeline-num-layers 16 \
--decoder-last-pipeline-num-layers 14 \
--context-parallel-size 1 \
--expert-model-parallel-size 1 \
--expert-tensor-parallel-size 1 \
--recompute-granularity full \
--recompute-method block \
--recompute-num-layers 12 \
--use-dynamic-batch-size \
--max-tokens-per-gpu 8192 \
--optimizer adam --lr 1e-5 --lr-decay-style cosine --min-lr 1e-6 \
--lr-warmup-fraction 0.1 --weight-decay 0.1 --adam-beta1 0.9 --adam-beta2 0.98 \
--use-distributed-optimizer \
--use-precision-aware-optimizer \
--attention-dropout 0.0 --hidden-dropout 0.0 \
--accumulate-allreduce-grads-in-fp32 --attention-softmax-in-fp32 \
--attention-backend flash \
--distributed-timeout-minutes 30 \
--tensorboard-dir "$PROFILE_DIR"
notes: |
- Starting point: slime's Qwen3.5-27B script, `scripts/run-qwen3.5-27B.sh` with `scripts/models/qwen3.5-27B.sh` at
slime 0.3.0. slime ships it as a 4-node GRPO script and publishes no tokens/s figure for it. Ported to this
workload on one 8-GPU node with its layout (TP 4 with sequence parallel, PP 2 with 34/30 layers, CP 1 in place of
its CP 4, full recompute, Adam on the CPU), it measured 948.7 tokens/s/GPU on 8 H200; ATTUNE tuned it to 2,499.5
(+163%).
- The first stage is at its memory limit: the tuning run with block recompute of 10 layers ran out of memory there.
PP 2 at TP 1 ran out of memory on the last stage, which holds the FP32 logits of the 248,320-token vocabulary.
Citation
If you use a recipe by ATTUNE, please cite the paper.
@article{fan2026attune,
title = {{ATTUNE: Agentic Throughput Tuning for LLM Training}},
author = {Leo Fan and Hongyang Wang and Wenbo Chen and Jingguo Liu and Xian Li and Xuan Wang and
Ruochen Wen and Yiming Yan and Hao Wu and Zheshen Wang and Benoit Dumoulin},
journal = {arXiv preprint arXiv:2610.17528},
year = {2026},
url = {https://arxiv.org/abs/2610.17528}
}
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